333.i2p: Mourning the loss of zzz for I2P

Thu, 30 Mar 2023, 07:06am	Mourning the loss of zzz for I2P »
VargThePissed Участник Registered: March 2023 Последний раз: Sun, 04 Aug 2024 Сообщения: 29	OK BINGO!!! There's a message from the "real" To try and find zlatinb's key I looked back at the postman downloads for muwire. That led me to zlatinb's github for muwire. In it he has posted this message and a saved irc log of what was said. Now think about this. zab is likely to be the only one to have a pass to his github account so this verifies, reasonably well, that it is him saying this. Here's the address on the net, https://github.com/zlatinb/muwire Here's a open web address to his pastebin where he explains https://paste.i2pd.xyz/?77b8e66d0f366f87#BSA1kW... Here's what it says is his GPG Fingerprint on the muwire page 471B 9FD4 5517 A5ED 101F C57D A728 3207 2D52 5E41 Here's an I2p address where he explains http://privatebin.i2p/?77b8e66d0f366f87#BSA1kWM... Now the above address requires javascript so I'll copy and paste the text he posted in pastebin, Hello guys, My real name is Zlatin Balevsky, I have a LinkedIn account and my Twitter is "zlatinb". I'm generally not that interesting person but I was a contributor the I2P project for about 10 years. I resigned for some not so interesting reasons. But I just came back very briefly a few days ago and oh boy was there some serious BULLSHIT going on behind the scenes there. If you want to find out what that is, read on: Some background: There are two major implementations of I2P - a Java one (https://geti2p.net) and a C++ one (https://i2pd.website). Since I know Java, I was contributing to the Java one. However, after what I saw the last few days, I say STAY THE FUCK AWAY from that one. Seriously, use the C++ one. It is more rough around the edges but if you care at all about actually being safe and private use that and do not look back. So, there is an IRC network inside I2P known as Irc2P. In fact, that's where pretty much all the action is. I'm going to paste some chat logs from the #i2p-dev channel inside the Irc2P network. If you want to verify that I'm not bullshitting you, they are also available at http://major.i2p/irc2p/i2p-dev/2023/01/18 (but you need to be running an I2P software to access this site.) Cast of characters: zlatinb - myself zzz - lead developer of the Java implementation echel\|off - that's a very interesting one.. He has given me a supposedly real name and supposedly works at some university in Austria. But after going through this shit I am seriously 100% convinced that's a front. orignal - lead developer of the C++ implementation. Twitter handle "orignali2p" Xeha - some guy I've noticed hanging around that approached me because he had also observed the bullshit. obscuratus & dr\|z3d - interesting for other reasons but they only say 1 or 2 lines in the excerpt below. So, here we go. Be warned, I seriously lose my shit in this conversation because I believed in what I was doing for the 10 years I contributed to this project. Oh and I donated 1000 BTC to that asshole eche\|off, but that was back when BTC was cheap so it doesn't mean that much. I seriously can't tell you how fucking disappointed I am. =========================== zlatinb Hello again, it is me. I am afraid I am going to waste a little more of your time. Also a little more space in the major.i2p logs. zlatinb This time I would like to address a slight concern I have with the behaviour of a long-time I2P member eche\|off zlatinb My concern can be summarized the following way: zlatinb eche\|off: you are an absolute piece of shit. You are an useless Nazi, who is also a hypocryte and is not worth to be even mentioned in the team page. zlatinb Just because you have been sitting on your fat ass for 10 years not doing a damn thing and collecting the money does not give you the righ to put bullshit woke statements on the website zlatinb more specifically you do not have the FUCKING right to say that the I2P project as a whole support bullshit woke causes like LGBT BLM and all that crap. zlatinb you did not consult any other team member when you put that statement on the website. zlatinb Therefore my answer for you is NO zlatinb and you can interpret that in any way you like zlatinb (although I recommend you interpret it as you going to a not so a pleasant place for an extended period of time) zlatinb goodbye guys! obscuratus Dang, he left. I wanted to find out how his application to seminary was going. dr\|z3d you can find him in #ls2 zlatinb sorry, just thought I'd drop in the link to the git commit that eche\|off made on his own accord without asking anyone else: zlatinb i2pgit.org/i2p-hackers/i2p.www/-/commit/5f8cc14749dd1f76d0c6cda07e6c7bbc1f3ea454 zlatinb now I'm really fucking off. Goodnight! zlatinb Actually, I decided that I am going to hang around here (where let's not forget everything gets logged into major.i2p) zlatinb The reason I am hanging out here is because I have noticed over the 10 years I have worked on I2P massive amounts of lies and deception by some prominent community members. zlatinb This type of behavior I affectionately call "Bullshit" zlatinb I was just told by a long term community member RN that "Each To His Own" was as far as "she" was aware a quote on top of a concentration camp. zlatinb However, I seem to have been lead to believe this was a quote from the Holy Bible. zlatinb Now, if you are the type of person who trusts Google, do go ahead and see what they say. zlatinb If however you are the type of person who likes to actually perform due diligence before making up their own mind, it might behoove you to find an actual Bible and see if that quote is really there. zlatinb So let's have a little deathmatch: Google VS Bible zlatinb hello my good friend orignal zlatinb s/good/best/ zlatinb let's have some $FUN zlatinb however, it has to be in Anglais orignal hi zlatinb Let's see, who else shall we fuck with tonight? zlatinb everybody: raise your hand if you support any of the following idiocies: BLM,LGBT,Climate Change zlatinb orignal: feel free to add to the list zlatinb oh, I forgot my favorite one: Women's rights aka Feminism zlatinb Let's do it! zlatinb Come at me :) zlatinb Blinded message zlatinb Alright, nobody is biting, so let's up the ante zlatinb How about: Science zlatinb And while we are it, let's add: Medicine orignal maybe "trust the science"? zlatinb To repeat the question: if you believe in any of the lies (or more affectionately "Bullshit") that I have listed, you are welcome to take a step forward. zlatinb 100% bro! zlatinb Ok, upping the ante even more. Let's add: zlatinb Buddhism zlatinb (see where I'm getting at?) zlatinb Aw fuck it, I'll say it right here: zlatinb islam zlatinb I almost capitalized it, but good thing I caught myself on time. zlatinb Come on guys don't tell me I haven't offended anybody yet? zlatinb How about your precious feelings? orignal Where are Toronto dudes? Sadie, Fox zlatinb Sadie is a B.I.T.C.H. and hasn't been around for ages. zlatinb Let's try to be clever: How about Yoga! zlatinb Or even better: Veganism zlatinb Hmm, how about Inclusivity (that's a clever one) zlatinb Progress - that's one of my favorites zlatinb Guys you gotta be kidding me, you can't tell me you are afraid to step up in front of me to defend your belief in Progress zlatinb orignal: I know what your favorite is, so feel free to say it out loud: zlatinb (and let's not forget about major.i2p) zlatinb Lol. zlatinb I'll tweet so that maybe more people can join this fun game. zlatinb Ok, Tweet is out, but for some BULLSHIT reason the clearnet logs of major.i2p seem to be somewhat not quite there. zlatinb Hmm, maybe I should just mention Dr. Faucci in the tweet cause you guys are all "бабьй" orignal "обабилисьЭ zlatinb Excellent word :) zlatinb Ok, Tweet to Dr. Faucci sent. Let's see if shows up :) zlatinb oh oh, missed a "he" zlatinb need to slow donw zlatinb uh oh x2 zlatinb Hi guise, where is my good old friend eche? Not hanging around much lately? T3s\|4 o/ zzz - I've got bunches of torrents, so thanks for adding the snark search feature; it's working well here and is quite useful :D zzz thanks for your test and report T3s\|4 zlatinb Oh ny friend eche\|off is back. Happy to talk to you old friend. zlatinb s/friend/piece of shit/ zlatinb Since you are actually here, why don't you explain under what authority you made that commit to the i2p.www Git repository which I have posted earlier? zlatinb You just "waltzed" in (yeah since Austrians have good waltzes) and decided to "randomly" pledge I2P's allegiance to LGBT? zlatinb Or are you going to say you talked to zzz or maybe sadie? zlatinb Cause if you try that angle zzz is right here to confirm or deny it. zlatinb And I actually remember sending you an email over i2pmail asking you to talk about this commit but you ignored it completely. zlatinb And if you would like me to prove that, all I would need is to look at mail.i2p account. Unless postman is in kahootz with you of course. zlatinb And if you try to say you did talk to sadie, then I would like to say 2 things: zlatinb 1. Who the fuck is she in the first place? She is about the most inconsequential member of the team. Xeha wtf is this? eche\|off just zlatinb going a bit too much into "the bible is all" eche\|off but we got rules in here and one esp. is no logging or no harrassment, so Xeha huh? this channel is logged Xeha and zzz actually approved it eche\|off every user in here can log and post Xeha via major service eche\|off no eche\|off we do not approve not encourage logging or alike eche\|off those are fals accusmenets of zlatinb eche\|off who tries to harrass us now because we do not follow his ideal of the bible Xeha nope, when acetone started the IRC logger with major, he asked every OP in each channel if logging would be ok Xeha check your logs :) Xeha also you arent a +o in this channel, why are you abusing your IRC OP powers again? Xeha let zzz deal with his decisions eche\|off as I am IRC OP operator, I manage the IRC network eche\|off including htis channel eche\|off and all OPs do know this eche\|off and no need to harrass me about this zzz eche doesn't need my help or advice, he's the boss Xeha yea, thats why #ls2 was created Xeha so its again, you ignoring your own rules and being a facist... ok. i'll shut it too Xeha sorry, cant talk about it anymore or i'll get banned too eche\|off think whatever you may, I follow my rules and apply them to my services. Xeha its not your service Xeha its postman's eche\|off you may run your services. eche\|off it is mine eche\|off I can shut it down if I like to. Xeha no, im connected to postmans not yours eche\|off who telly you it is not mine? Xeha but you have IRC OPs due to being a federated net eche\|off trust me, it is mine Xeha so irc.postman.i2p is yours too? Xeha no answer? Xeha so either its not yours (you lied) or you own both (hostile takeover), which is it? Xeha i've specifically selected postmans server due to the shit in the past Xeha that its a federated net is obvious to me eche\|off whoever runs the single IRC nodes is not important, even if those are run/controlled by a single instance. its the list of IC Oper, who manages the whole net and services and do own them. eche\|off and no one said a single instance do own both destiantions of IRC hosts, neither more than one do. ========= If you made it this far, well done. You know how to get in touch with me. I'm still hanging out on another IRC network inside the I2P network called "Ilita" and use same nickname. That network is ran by the I2Pd (the C++) guys and I trust them one bazillion times more than the Java idiots. Take care, Zlatin Balevsky ************************** So it looks like eche\|off which I assume is eche\|on has somehow weaseled his way into the administrative control, then taken the whole thing over and locked out the real programmers and creators. This is SO JEWISH that you have no idea how much this happens. People let me give some advice never ever let the Jews get control of the keys to the door or control of the cash flow of any institution or project because you will soon see yourself locked out while they take over and drive it right into the ground. It's just what they do. Everything the Jews take over turns to shit. Everything. I think it safe to assume that the java I2P is done for. The version 2.1.1.0 is likely fine but everything going forward is likely to be ruined in some way or another. I can see it. Happens all the time with Jews. I can see eche\|on saying,"oh sure, I'll take care of that administrative task for you", "oh sure I'll make sure the funds are distributed properly" and THEN changes the pass, steals the money, locks out the real programmers.
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OK BINGO!!! There's a message from the "real"

To try and find zlatinb's key I looked back at the postman downloads for muwire. That led me to zlatinb's github for muwire. In it he has posted this message and a saved irc log of what was said.

Now think about this. zab is likely to be the only one to have a pass to his github account so this verifies, reasonably well, that it is him saying this. Here's the address on the net,

https://github.com/zlatinb/muwire

Here's a open web address to his pastebin where he explains

https://paste.i2pd.xyz/?77b8e66d0f366f87#BSA1kW...

Here's what it says is his GPG Fingerprint on the muwire page

471B 9FD4 5517 A5ED 101F C57D A728 3207 2D52 5E41

Here's an I2p address where he explains

http://privatebin.i2p/?77b8e66d0f366f87#BSA1kWM...

Now the above address requires javascript so I'll copy and paste the text he posted in pastebin,

Hello guys,

My real name is Zlatin Balevsky, I have a LinkedIn account and my Twitter is "zlatinb". I'm generally not that interesting person but I was a contributor the I2P project for about 10 years. I resigned for some not so interesting reasons. But I just came back very briefly a few days ago and oh boy was there some serious BULLSHIT going on behind the scenes there. If you want to find out what that is, read on:

Some background:

There are two major implementations of I2P - a Java one (https://geti2p.net) and a C++ one (https://i2pd.website). Since I know Java, I was contributing to the Java one. However, after what I saw the last few days, I say STAY THE FUCK AWAY from that one. Seriously, use the C++ one. It is more rough around the edges but if you care at all about actually being safe and private use that and do not look back.

So, there is an IRC network inside I2P known as Irc2P. In fact, that's where pretty much all the action is. I'm going to paste some chat logs from the #i2p-dev channel inside the Irc2P network. If you want to verify that I'm not bullshitting you, they are also available at http://major.i2p/irc2p/i2p-dev/2023/01/18 (but you need to be running an I2P software to access this site.)

Cast of characters:
zlatinb - myself
zzz - lead developer of the Java implementation
echel|off - that's a very interesting one.. He has given me a *supposedly* real name and *supposedly* works at some university in Austria. But after going through this shit I am seriously 100% convinced that's a front.
orignal - lead developer of the C++ implementation. Twitter handle "orignali2p"
Xeha - some guy I've noticed hanging around that approached me because he had also observed the bullshit.
obscuratus & dr|z3d - interesting for other reasons but they only say 1 or 2 lines in the excerpt below.

So, here we go. Be warned, I seriously lose my shit in this conversation because I believed in what I was doing for the 10 years I contributed to this project. Oh and I donated 1000 BTC to that asshole eche|off, but that was back when BTC was cheap so it doesn't mean that much. I seriously can't tell you how fucking disappointed I am.

===========================
zlatinb
Hello again, it is me. I am afraid I am going to waste a little more of your time. Also a little more space in the major.i2p logs.
zlatinb
This time I would like to address a slight concern I have with the behaviour of a long-time I2P member eche|off
zlatinb
My concern can be summarized the following way:
zlatinb
eche|off: you are an absolute piece of shit. You are an useless Nazi, who is also a hypocryte and is not worth to be even mentioned in the team page.
zlatinb
Just because you have been sitting on your fat ass for 10 years not doing a damn thing and collecting the money does not give you the righ to put bullshit woke statements on the website
zlatinb
more specifically you do not have the FUCKING right to say that the I2P project as a whole support bullshit woke causes like LGBT BLM and all that crap.
zlatinb
you did not consult any other team member when you put that statement on the website.
zlatinb
Therefore my answer for you is NO
zlatinb
and you can interpret that in any way you like
zlatinb
(although I recommend you interpret it as you going to a not so a pleasant place for an extended period of time)
zlatinb
goodbye guys!
obscuratus
Dang, he left. I wanted to find out how his application to seminary was going.
dr|z3d
you can find him in #ls2
zlatinb
sorry, just thought I'd drop in the link to the git commit that eche|off made on his own accord without asking anyone else:
zlatinb
i2pgit.org/i2p-hackers/i2p.www/-/commit/5f8cc14749dd1f76d0c6cda07e6c7bbc1f3ea454
zlatinb
now I'm really fucking off. Goodnight!
zlatinb
Actually, I decided that I am going to hang around here (where let's not forget everything gets logged into major.i2p)
zlatinb
The reason I am hanging out here is because I have noticed over the 10 years I have worked on I2P massive amounts of lies and deception by some prominent community members.
zlatinb
This type of behavior I affectionately call "Bullshit"
zlatinb
I was just told by a long term community member RN that "Each To His Own" was as far as "she" was aware a quote on top of a concentration camp.
zlatinb
However, I seem to have been lead to believe this was a quote from the Holy Bible.
zlatinb
Now, if you are the type of person who trusts Google, do go ahead and see what they say.
zlatinb
If however you are the type of person who likes to actually perform due diligence before making up their own mind, it might behoove you to find an actual Bible and see if that quote is really there.
zlatinb
So let's have a little deathmatch: Google VS Bible
zlatinb
hello my good friend orignal
zlatinb
s/good/best/
zlatinb
let's have some $FUN
zlatinb
however, it has to be in Anglais
orignal
hi
zlatinb
Let's see, who else shall we fuck with tonight?
zlatinb
everybody: raise your hand if you support any of the following idiocies: BLM,LGBT,Climate Change
zlatinb
orignal: feel free to add to the list
zlatinb
oh, I forgot my favorite one: Women's rights aka Feminism
zlatinb
Let's do it!
zlatinb
Come at me :)
zlatinb
Blinded message
zlatinb
Alright, nobody is biting, so let's up the ante
zlatinb
How about: Science
zlatinb
And while we are it, let's add: Medicine
orignal
maybe "trust the science"?
zlatinb
To repeat the question: if you believe in any of the lies (or more affectionately "Bullshit") that I have listed, you are welcome to take a step forward.
zlatinb
100% bro!
zlatinb
Ok, upping the ante even more. Let's add:
zlatinb
Buddhism
zlatinb
(see where I'm getting at?)
zlatinb
Aw fuck it, I'll say it right here:
zlatinb
islam
zlatinb
I almost capitalized it, but good thing I caught myself on time.
zlatinb
Come on guys don't tell me I haven't offended anybody yet?
zlatinb
How about your precious feelings?
orignal
Where are Toronto dudes? Sadie, Fox
zlatinb
Sadie is a B.I.T.C.H. and hasn't been around for ages.
zlatinb
Let's try to be clever: How about Yoga!
zlatinb
Or even better: Veganism
zlatinb
Hmm, how about Inclusivity (that's a clever one)
zlatinb
Progress - that's one of my favorites
zlatinb
Guys you gotta be kidding me, you can't tell me you are afraid to step up in front of me to defend your belief in Progress
zlatinb
orignal: I know what your favorite is, so feel free to say it out loud:
zlatinb
(and let's not forget about major.i2p)
zlatinb
Lol.
zlatinb
I'll tweet so that maybe more people can join this fun game.
zlatinb
Ok, Tweet is out, but for some BULLSHIT reason the clearnet logs of major.i2p seem to be somewhat not quite there.
zlatinb
Hmm, maybe I should just mention Dr. Faucci in the tweet cause you guys are all "бабьй"
orignal
"обабилисьЭ
zlatinb
Excellent word :)
zlatinb
Ok, Tweet to Dr. Faucci sent. Let's see if shows up :)
zlatinb
oh oh, missed a "he"
zlatinb
need to slow donw
zlatinb
uh oh x2
zlatinb
Hi guise, where is my good old friend eche? Not hanging around much lately?
T3s|4
o/ zzz - I've got bunches of torrents, so thanks for adding the snark search feature; it's working well here and is quite useful :D
zzz
thanks for your test and report T3s|4
zlatinb
Oh ny friend eche|off is back. Happy to talk to you old friend.
zlatinb
s/friend/piece of shit/
zlatinb
Since you are actually here, why don't you explain under what authority you made that commit to the i2p.www Git repository which I have posted earlier?
zlatinb
You just "waltzed" in (yeah since Austrians have good waltzes) and decided to "randomly" pledge I2P's allegiance to LGBT?
zlatinb
Or are you going to say you talked to zzz or maybe sadie?
zlatinb
Cause if you try that angle zzz is right here to confirm or deny it.
zlatinb
And I actually remember sending you an email over i2pmail asking you to talk about this commit but you ignored it completely.
zlatinb
And if you would like me to prove that, all I would need is to look at mail.i2p account. Unless postman is in kahootz with you of course.
zlatinb
And if you try to say you did talk to sadie, then I would like to say 2 things:
zlatinb
1. Who the fuck is she in the first place? She is about the most inconsequential member of the team.
Xeha
wtf is this?
eche|off
just zlatinb going a bit too much into "the bible is all"
eche|off
but we got rules in here and one esp. is no logging or no harrassment, so
Xeha
huh? this channel is logged
Xeha
and zzz actually approved it
eche|off
every user in here can log and post
Xeha
via major service
eche|off
no
eche|off
we do not approve not encourage logging or alike
eche|off
those are fals accusmenets of zlatinb
eche|off
who tries to harrass us now because we do not follow his ideal of the bible
Xeha
nope, when acetone started the IRC logger with major, he asked every OP in each channel if logging would be ok
Xeha
check your logs :)
Xeha
also you arent a +o in this channel, why are you abusing your IRC OP powers again?
Xeha
let zzz deal with his decisions
eche|off
as I am IRC OP operator, I manage the IRC network
eche|off
including htis channel
eche|off
and all OPs do know this
eche|off
and no need to harrass me about this
zzz
eche doesn't need my help or advice, he's the boss
Xeha
yea, thats why #ls2 was created
Xeha
so its again, you ignoring your own rules and being a facist... ok. i'll shut it too
Xeha
sorry, cant talk about it anymore or i'll get banned too
eche|off
think whatever you may, I follow my rules and apply them to my services.
Xeha
its not your service
Xeha
its postman's
eche|off
you may run your services.
eche|off
it is mine
eche|off
I can shut it down if I like to.
Xeha
no, im connected to postmans not yours
eche|off
who telly you it is not mine?
Xeha
but you have IRC OPs due to being a federated net
eche|off
trust me, it is mine
Xeha
so irc.postman.i2p is yours too?
Xeha
no answer?
Xeha
so either its not yours (you lied) or you own both (hostile takeover), which is it?
Xeha
i've specifically selected postmans server due to the shit in the past
Xeha
that its a federated net is obvious to me
eche|off
whoever runs the single IRC nodes is not important, even if those are run/controlled by a single instance. its the list of IC Oper, who manages the whole net and services and do own them.
eche|off
and no one said a single instance do own both destiantions of IRC hosts, neither more than one do.

=========

If you made it this far, well done. You know how to get in touch with me. I'm still hanging out on another IRC network inside the I2P network called "Ilita" and use same nickname. That network is ran by the I2Pd (the C++) guys and I trust them one bazillion times more than the Java idiots.

Take care,
Zlatin Balevsky

**************************
So it looks like

eche|off
which I assume is eche|on

has somehow weaseled his way into the administrative control, then taken the whole thing over and locked out the real programmers and creators.

This is SO JEWISH that you have no idea how much this happens. People let me give some advice never ever let the Jews get control of the keys to the door or control of the cash flow of any institution or project because you will soon see yourself locked out while they take over and drive it right into the ground. It's just what they do.

Everything the Jews take over turns to shit. Everything.

I think it safe to assume that the java I2P is done for. The version 2.1.1.0 is likely fine but everything going forward is likely to be ruined in some way or another.

I can see it. Happens all the time with Jews. I can see eche|on saying,"oh sure, I'll take care of that administrative task for you", "oh sure I'll make sure the funds are distributed properly" and THEN changes the pass, steals the money, locks out the real programmers.