333.i2p

I personally wouldn't use those "update" files to rollback as they cannot rollback future changes to databases etc. Can someone confirm? I would simply recommend reinstalling a previous version and readd any custom elements and options.

Its best practice to keep a record of changes that one makes to options, anyway. I would encourage people to keep a record.

@qball I'm not across these issues, but I'm aware that one ought be wary of IBM. QT pays out for downloads??? Hi I'm Sybil... Sybil... Sybil... Sybil Attack???

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I'M PROPOSING A SOLUTION TO THE ATTACK ON I2P HERE. It involves anonymously setting up a local meetup, with a specific question asking attendees what they believe the attack on I2P is about. MORE...

I surmise that I2P is being attacked by a highly organised entity.

Moving forward, I feel the solution to this needs to be community-based. As zzz wrote in his last news post on 15 Feb titled "DDoS Update", "even after 20 years, the I2P network is relatively small". If memory serves, last year I read that I2P enjoys approx 50k-100k participants globally. To put that into context, Tor in Germany alone had around 150k users last I checked so it is possible to boost the number of I2P participants by 4x easily. If we do, we will likely boost the number of eyes reading the code also.

Thus why not propose a Computer Meetup in your local area? Call it something fun like, "THE HATING COMPUTERS CLUB" or try a pun of some kind, people respond well to funny names so do enjoy thinking of a clever but punchy name. Print on the flyer some questions that you would like to ask at the public meetup, including a question seeking answers on the recent DDoS attack on the I2P (Invisible Internet Protocol) network. Unless you are printing the flyer yourself, omit the time and location and write that on manually later to prevent Printer Tipoff Attack. People will likely be curious and seek out more info on I2P, even if they do not attend your public meeting! Letterbox every household in the area, or a minimum of 500. Some people prefer to letterbox every second household and inform as such on the flyer to encourage interested persons to share their interest with their neighbor. Don't be too fancy or fussy with the design, keep it simple, black and white, keep it affordable.

At the meetup ask people if they have I2P and if not offer, them basic instructions on how to setup the best way you know, with the version that you think is most secure. This is how we help THE FREE AND FAIR INTERNET, I2P.

As written previously:

THIS SITE HAS ALL VERSIONS OF I2P-ROUTER (JAVA) GOING BACK A DECADE

V2.1.0 IF YOU REQUIRE IT, for example:

- SOURCE CODE i2psource_2.1.0.tar.bz2 2023-01-10 22:12 31M
- SOURCE CODE i2psource_2.1.0.tar.bz2.sig 2023-01-10 22:12 566
[/code]
- LINUX INSTALL i2pinstall_2.1.0.jar 2023-01-10 22:12 28M
- LINUX INSTALL i2pinstall_2.1.0.jar.sig 2023-01-10 22:12 566

HERE IS THE PUBLIC KEY FOR zzz that I have been using for a long while and that I still see online.

ALLEGED (ie. UNCHECKED) ENTIRE HISTORY OF i2prouter SOURCE CODE:
- I2P Git Bundles (Feb 2023).torrent at Postman's tracker
- Copy of torrent file here

Anyone is welcom to share links for I2PD's full software package + source history in the interests of having a page where people can come to get both versions during a meetup.

Let's get organised, set a community meetup, you don't even need to reveal you were the organiser!

Parag 01. False + anti-Jewish-hatred (AJH)
Parag 02. Fighting above evidence of signs of self-loathing + AJH
Parag 03. False. You did imply such, quoted here
Parag 04. Agreement on "It is useful to the large State actor to have people in the I2P community think that this is only about an ideological divide on the topic of "homosexuality" or "trans rights" etc..."
Parag 05. Varg was likely not on zzz forums in Oct/Nov 2022. Serious AJH and propaganda, possibly to cause a future attack on these forums.
Parag 06. Non-sequitous AJH. Straw-manning.
Parag 07. Non-sequitous AJH.
Parag 08. Dismissive
Parag 09. Dismissive with AJH
Parag 10. Dismissive with AJH

Twice I have asked about thoughts on Cloudflare in this thread and the response has been a quite pronounced nothing.

At some point we must move on.

Last edited: Wed, 05 Apr 2023, 01:17pm от fairlyNoobQuestions

I'm pleased to report that the aforementioned I2P Git Bundles (Feb 2023).torrent is now available Postman's tracker.

I have also posted it here in this most helpful forum for needed redundancy, but it would be great if someone with some authority might confirm that indeed the above torrent file is a correct.and true representation from the time the author made it in Feb. I regret that I'm not an expert in the area of verifying torrent files and the fact that others may be sharing the file and its data doesn't sufficiently prove anything. What I know is the torrent file was not available for a time until very recently.

Maybe there is a way we can compare the magnet link to the file?

There is a maxim, "Don't trust, verify". I seek to uphold that wherever possible.

Thanks, and thanks to everyone who uses this fine forum for their continued patience as we seek to understand troubling recent events in I2P's history.

Last edited: Sun, 02 Apr 2023, 05:59pm от fairlyNoobQuestions

Varg wrote:

another person making excuses for Jews, fairlyNoobQuestions, and backing up what appears to be a fake zlatinb

May I ask what was "fake"? It was yourself who presented the IRC dialog and I am building the case that a self-loathing homosexual, Christian character is created as a red-herring to explain away I2P's destruction. If you are saying that the dialog you've presented by zlatinb here is not the real zab, that's not only possible but aligns with my hypothesis, which I may add, I always posed as a hypothesis.

It is useful to the large State actor to have people in the I2P community think that this is only about an ideological divide on the topic of "homosexuality" or "trans rights" etc. What the most evil destructive forces do is try to use any internal division and escalate that to create harm and cause maximum confusion. So I'm agreeing with you, I2P is under serious attack and I think it has nothing to do with "homosexuality", but about what I2P delivers to people. I2P is THE FREE INTERNET WE NEED and it has recently formed a network-level backbone to the most important technological advancement for the people since electricity; bitcoin.

I simply extend the DDOS attack further back to not just December, but mid-to-late Oct 2022, if my memory on the timing is correct. I must draw attention to a fact that has yet to be mentioned in this thread; how Reddit boards formed the first part of the attack. It was a form of DDOS on Reddit because apparently those boards were (maybe still are) an important on-boarding tool and bad actors on that platform were allegedly asking legitimate I2P questions while at the same time expressing interest in conducting illegal activity, thus by helping those alleged "persons" any i2p dev could be accused of aiding unlawful activity which provides a pretext to come after I2P, both as a network and possibly individual devs. It may also be an attempt to downgrade the Reddit boards' performance on search engines.

As was reported in zzz's forum (zzz.i2p) at the time of the Reddit Attack, idk largely was the one responding. I remember zzz commending idk on zzz.i2p forum how remarkable it was, to see that idk was accurately guessing the operating systems and the versions of i2p people were having problems with about, based on their descriptions of problems alone. (As a aside, I would like to point out here that Reddit is a dangerous platform with an accused genocide perpetrator and war criminal from the US State on its Board of Directors, Jennifer Ashooh. I ask people to please never use Reddit and instead use decentralized social like ActivityPub/Mastodon). Or print something and give it to your neighbors.

In the above context, there is a possibility that code that might be typically checked thoroughly, may be less checked. Thus I broaden the scope for needed code review to mid-October and believe that we should be looking for even the most subtle of exploitable code.

Varg, as much as you might wish to believe it, not everyone with a slightly divergent understanding to you online is "a Jew". Due to being a part of the bitcoin stack we automatically attract the most vile and corrupt destructive opponents. Yes, their may be overlap, but I ask you to dust off your prejudices and think, please.

You are risking me thinking that you and the fake zlatinb are the same person. The fake zlatinb exists to plant the idea this was just an ideological "anti-homosexual, anti-trans" affair, and your anti-Jew identity exists to repel any further serious discussion, which I should reiterate, are at times both equally cartoonish in tone and nature to the anti-gay rhetoric we've seen from zlatinb, and is a known method used by large State actors to have sites attacked.

Yes, Zionism and land theft done by the Israel State and the way that State, together with the US have conducted themselves, together with other non-Jewish states, to control resources and invoke large-scale murders is bad. Most people know this; but when you conflate to all Jewish people and you see "Jews" everywhere its not helping anything here. Please think.

Last edited: Sun, 02 Apr 2023, 02:13pm от fairlyNoobQuestions

Well found, Varg. Good detective work, if its a true repesentation, and I think it might be.

zlatinb wrote:

I haven't bothered to read the all the different posts because they diverge from the topic of the thread. Here is exactly what happened:

1. In 2018 I proposed that the Java I2P project start a paid program. Echelon kept the funds and as far as I have been told bitcoins exchanged hands and zzz didn't pay taxes on them.

2. Echelon made the commit to the website about LGBT and inclusion whenever.

3. I resigned when the Dread forum came to I2P

4. Few months later I confronted echelon on IRC #i2p-dev and he banned me. Then I went to #ls2 and tried to bring zzz into it but he refused. All of this can be verified with the logs on http://major.i2p

5. I couldn't believe that zzz had willingly been working for echelon and I doxed him:

5.1 First I posted what I knew about him in #i2p-dev and then on Twitter. The tweet was deleted.

5.2 That wasn't enough, I wanted his blood so I sent a letter in the snail mail with IRS form 3949-A. I don't know if it has arrived but nobody has contacted me yet, and if they do I will refuse to give any evidence.

7. I reached out to zzz and asked him to come back to I2P very recently. There has been no response yet. If he returns I will stay out of his way and let him do his thing.

If all the above is true, then I2P Java's Lead Dev appears to have been attacked by, what seems, a self-loathing, closet homosexual Christian. It could be seen as humorous but zzz does not in any way deserve to be doxxed for not filing the income as taxable, zzz is supposed to be anonymous, it makes absolutely no sense for him to out himself to the State.

Zab, if the above is correct, you have risked the future of a free internet for your pride. It seems as though you are losing an ideological (and puritanical) debate and so you start to play dirty and 'play the man', as I wrote about above on another issue, this makes you the loser in the debate. In your puritanical struggle you are losing your integrity. If the above is true, you also resort to cussing and name-calling. Do you not see that you are in the wrong here, and you need to think hard about a few things, including your own sexuality, as it does seem that you may be high on the homosexual spectrum. For someone to have such a visceral disgust towards homosexuality and it would seem, 'feminism', its possible that you may rank quite high on the homosexual spectrum. Its quite possible that during your upbringing you were made to feel inferior for your feelings towards men and you are still living in that state of fear of being exposed as inferior. Have you considered getting help?

It looks like zzz is gone because you outed him to a military contracted platform, Twitter. He is either dead or in fear of his life because of you. Well done.

God only knows how much time we have before the Golang version replaces the Java one, now.

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There is another possibility that zab's apparent puritanical motivations are a red-herring. He may be simply playing a Christian character to explain away the destructive behavior. I say this because he seems to have two very distinct tones in his writing, one bellicose and cartoonish in its bigotry, and another that is quite pragmatic and reasoned. Therefore I'm tipping towards his behavior being an act, a means to an end, that end is to hurt the I2P network. I'm willing to say zab is a spook, or has been co-opted or corrupted by a spook at some point. Why might I2P be under attack? In many respects, I2P is better than Tor and thus it poses a threat to Tor. That's what I think this is really about.

The "culture wars" such as anti-gay, are typically used by counter-intelligence to deflect. I think I2P is under very, serious attack. We should probably bunker down and try to find a way to have code audited, starting from when the DDOS began late last year. In the rush to handle the DDOS, a vulnerability may have slipped in undetected.

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Why might the torrent file not be available on postman's website? I'll try again that some future time.

Just briefly, your usage of the term "Global Homo" (aka "globohomo") tips me off that you are fighting a basic force of biology. Homosexuality.

Homosexuality has always existed and just as many other species have more homosexual offspring as overpopulation occurs to reduce impacts of overpopualtion, so too will humans become increasingly homosexual. Also, many people are comfortable about their homosexuality today and so they will not hide it like they might have in the past.

When these two factors combine, you will see more homosexuality around. Try not to be too frightened or alarmed by this.

Counter-intelligence operatives are exceedingly good at whipping people into a frenzy on this topic. Its a dividing tactic. The media play into this of course by purposefully creating more gay characters in films, and suddenly you have people reacting to unimportant events. The "culture wars". The State dislikes homosexuality because they don't increase the population, the elite don't care about overpopulation, they can always place people into tighter and worse living conditions. States much prefer having lots of young people because youth are more easily controlled in the workforce. So if too many people realize they can be gay (EDIT: what their body tells them they are) the State loses easy, future workers.

So as States, both Russia and USA dislike homosexuality. The West seems able to supplement the loss in the workforce with foreign workers moreso than Russia, which is why Russia more overtly suppress homosexuality than the West. Watch this space closely, the so-called 'values' in the West towards women in the form of abortion rights and homosexuality can disappear faster than they came.

Both States are wrong in attacking homosexuality and abortion and should instead develop working environments with a more sensible work life balance. A four-day week for example ought be commonplace in seemingly developed countries today.

Last edited: Tue, 28 Mar 2023, 06:33pm от fairlyNoobQuestions

Varg wrote:

Thanks for the key and download info very much.

A pleasure.

Varg wrote:

(some negativity towards Jewish people)

In the lead-up to the Christchurch Massacre in New Zealand, similar was said about followers of Islam, that they will secretly destroy non-believers etc.

Most religions include some awful ideas in scriptures to spread its influence and wealth.

There are good people and bad people in any religion. It is well known that a Jewish Mafia existed in New York, for example, and may still exist today. Just like there are some unsavory types of Christian and Islamic people.

The general consensus among honest historians is, in the early/mid 20th century Jewish people were typically prevented from operating financial institutions in the US so they focused a large part into arts, specifically film and television. What we might call "the media". As a result, yes, a lot of Jewish people exist in the media, and yes, the media is also today controlled by counter-intelligence agencies, so some overlap will exist here between counter-intelligence and jewish people. As a result the negativity felt towards media, as a counter-intelligence apparatus may conflate with the fact that many are also Jewish.

This is understandable conflation, but again 'conflation' is another logical fallacy to be wary of.

Sowing division is one of the "keystones" in counter-intelligence's "arch" of power. Genuine historians no longer refute that the Israel State was formed in large part to foment problems in the Middle East to justify the resource-extracting "War On Terror". Of course, these things are easy to see in hindsight.

Varg wrote:

(Judaism re 9/11)

It was inspired by media propaganda throughout the 90s that persistently depicted disaster for the west in the form of building destruction, a trope sprayed across all forms of film and television. Having said that, it remains a logical fallacy to conflate "media" and "Jews" here. The US State Department, many of whom are not Jewish, upon learning that someone would indeed carry out the attack seem to have permitted and facilitated it. The person who ran the security at the towers was brother to George Bush and that team were absent on the day of the attack.

Varg wrote:

(Judaism re Federal Reserve)

I don't see it as a Jewish thing. I'm opposed to the Federal Reserve system for more foundational reasons. I assume you appreciate bitcoin then, yes? This takes us back to Cloudflare, who are attempting to control the on-ramps to bitcoin. Again I'm interested to know people's thoughts on Cloudflare.

Varg wrote:

I have not found source code to older versions except for much older versions. No source for 2.1.0-0 which is the one we want. Last zzz source.

On this page you'll find it as:

 i2psource_2.1.0.tar.bz2	2023-01-10 22:12 	31M	 
 i2psource_2.1.0.tar.bz2.sig	2023-01-10 22:12 	566 	 

Varg wrote:

It says: "This is not a certificate authority certificate, so it can’t be imported into the certificate authority list."

Perhaps its not created by a Certificate Authority (CA)? Maybe it is simply a self-signed certificate by zlatinb he made with something like the openssl command?

zlatinb?

Varg wrote:

I found a torrent, "I2P Git Bundles (Feb 2023)"

This is a very interesting find by you, thanks.

It is made more interesting given that the torrent file cannot be downloaded and other torrent files can. How suspicious!?

It was submitted on the same day as news was publishing by sadie and idk about the DDOS attack. Interesting!

Last edited: Tue, 28 Mar 2023, 04:23pm от fairlyNoobQuestions

Hi QBall, it seems as though you are calling on people to jump to yggdrasil? This is not a sustainable solution because everytime people jump out of a community to another, people are lost.

Ask yourself also what happens when yggdrasil is attacked? Are we forever to dart from one internet infrastructure to the next, or do we defend the home and the land that we have built and tended to?

VargThePissed wrote:

I haven't put aside anything.

No matter. If I may be forthright, the way you generalize and evoke cartoonish imagery of all Jewish people makes it difficult to take your position seriously. I'm opposed to the Zionism and land theft that is perpetuated by the Israel State but I separate that from Jewish people. There are many ordinary Jewish people who despise the Israel apartheid regime. I cannot stop you from hating, but just know that it negatively affects your arguments when you point and say "this is just like a Jew". It's called 'playing the man' and it is a fast way to lose formal debates. Now I will say zlatinb comes across as opinionated and a bit oppositional and I think I do remember a prominent person being a bit like that in the zzz forums too. Maybe it was zab.

VargThePissed wrote:

(i2pd whonix difficulties)

Different distros have different ways of packaging things. It could be that the key fingerprint you quoted is that of a maintainer at Whonix. Have you tried a search for it?

VargThePissed wrote:

(posted transcript of zzz.i2p thread)

Thank you very much for posting that. The thread reads like something that would happen every so often at zzz.i2p, and it was handled by zzz in the style I expect. Quite right, its not a plausible reason to shutdown all operations. Thanks again.

VargThePissed wrote:

(looking back over the source of different versions)

It gives me some pleasure to have discovered, as a result of your question, that it would seem one can see all the versions going back to 2012! The "official" download webpage for i2p triggers a download from this site

The key of zzz I have trusted myself is:

pub   rsa4096 2014-05-08 [SC] [expires: 2024-05-05]
      2D3D2D03910C6504C1210C65EE60C0C8EE7256A8

Finally, I'm very interested to know people's thoughts on Cloudflare.

I'm yet to attempt to install the Big Tech Blocker, but I will try at the first opportunity as I'm interested in knowing whether my setup is indeed phoning home to the tech overlords in some ungodly manner.

Last edited: Mon, 27 Mar 2023, 08:11pm от fairlyNoobQuestions

I share similar misgivings to the OP wrt the very sudden nature of zzz's disappearance. Though I won't pass judgement on whether I believe he has come to harm or was simply given a ludicrous sum to cease development and walk away.

achived wrote:

I downloaded the last topic on zzz.i2p before it went down.
http://333.i2p/files/zzz.i2p.zip

Are you able to unzip this and simply display the contents? I personally don't open zip files from random strangers.

In-seriousness wrote:

TO BE CLEAR THIS IS ME PUBLISHING AN INTERNET LAW. THE 'DIGITAL FEUDALISM COUNTER ACTION LAW'.

I'm always looking for ways to fight Big Tech, so this "Internet Antitrust Law" is somewhat interesting to me but it probably is best served by having its own thread, perhaps?

FYI, the server you chose to host the files, namely sharefile.i2p) is a Cloudflare honeypot itself! Yes, they exist on the darknet not just the clearnet, unfortunately. If you look at the HTTP request header of the site you will see "server: cloudflare" and the associated "cf-ray" entry.

There is a group, Crimeflare, who fight Cloudflare, and I can recommend their Block Cloudflare MITM Attack Extension for Firefox. It automatically tells you when a page is Cloudflare by prepending "[!!MITM!!]" to the tab and adding an ugly border around the webpage. The extension was hosted by Mozilla but they appear to have removed it. You should know that Mozilla force Firefox users to use Cloudflare for DNS, unless you manually prevent it. The only version Mozilla seem to host is an old one, and its in Russian which you don't understand.

If you're interested, the version of Block Cloudflare MITM Attack (BCMA) extension that I have is this one, which I've kept a backup of. If you change the filename to '.zip' and unzip it you can read the code for yourself. I realize the hypocrisy of saying that, given I don't unzip files from strangers myself. Maybe an established supporter of Crimeflare on these forums can verify the file is correct???

As an aside, Crimeflare should probably be on I2P these days, because I've just tried to access their site https://crimeflare.eu.org and repo at https://git.disroot.org/dCf/deCloudflare and both are inaccessible. Not good, they are probably attacked by the same anti-democratic forces that birthed Cloudflare, but if they were on I2P maybe they could operate more easily?

Cloudflare is really very bad. I live in a western country and they prevented me from accessing my bank account when I started moving my cryptocurrency to a non-custodial wallet. Cloudflare is among the greatest threats to human civilization. Should it ever become common knowledge what they are doing, distractions will be created to stop the revolt. In many respects a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) is already here.

I say this not to discourage you, but to encourage. I look forward to trying out your Big Tech Blocker and have added your torrent file here as a backup.

VargThePissed and zlatinb were engaged in an oppositional discussion but given that some time has passed it seems community members have put aside what appear to me minor or perceived differences for the sake of a greater good, and that is the health of the I2P network and the community.

Also looking forward to someone posting the contents of the zip file above that I cannot open.

Last edited: Sun, 26 Mar 2023, 05:58pm от fairlyNoobQuestions

Hi,

A zzz.i2p forum refugee here and I'm also thinking about changing to i2pd in future. I'm asking this question for both i2prouter and i2pd.

Does I2P isolate (or create different) tunnels to the same destination if they are using a different User Agent?

I know I2P replaces the UserAgent string to something like "MYOB 6.66" but different applications are likely to present different behavior that will result in possible fingerprinting. Also I think we need to give people the ability to attempt to use different programs with different personas.

I tried searching for answers on this and based on the discussions I've seen I suspect that tunnels are not isolated between differing applications with differing user-agent strings.

If this is true, I think it is a grave mistake. Most people are likely to think that if they have two different applications open, that those two applications will not talk to each other. The user is therefore highly likely to want, and to exhibit a different persona between the two applications.

I personally don't see any use-case where someone would want differing applications to be linked by the I2P tunnel, and when they do want their activity to be linked they will purposefully, for a limited time, use both programs with the same persona that can be trivially deanonymized by their persona/behavior rather than automatically from the same tunnel usage.

When a non-power user wants to break with that "linkable persona" they will probably assume that they must close both programs to eliminate cookies (if they are using browsers) and wait for at least 15 minutes for new tunnel formations (or restart I2P).

Agree?